App idea - mural not seen by anybody in a time period

I have been on a couple of trips now and had an idea about the map. Would it be possible to have a filter on the map to say not seen by anybody in over a period of time.

I have had a couple of murals that I went to see to find out it had been removed. If you could say not seen in say 2 years, you could make better use of the time you spend looking for murals. You could have the time period stored in your profile.

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I really like this idea — it would make planning trips and hunts much more efficient. It’s often hard to know if it’s worth going all the way somewhere just to find out the mural is gone.

Maybe the ā€œSeenā€ button could also have a kind of time limit — for example, if someone marked a mural as seen, that confirmation could automatically expire after 3 months unless it’s renewed. Alternatively, the button could show a small date underneath (like ā€œlast seen: June 2025ā€), so everyone immediately knows how recent the last confirmation was.

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Mmm, mixed feelings.

It’s not that the marker isn’t marked as seen — it’s that none of our app users have seen it yet.

Maybe it could actually be a masterpiece?

For example, there’s an amazing street art project happening in Portugal’s Douro Valley. It’s far from tourist hotspots and big cities, but the artworks are true masterpieces.

Do you really want those pieces hidden behind a circle just because nobody has hit the Seen button yet? We’ve had that button for about two years now — and it’s only recently become popular (hell yeah!).

Sure, Seen is a good indicator, but if it hasn’t been hit in one or two years, that doesn’t mean the artwork is gone.

It’s all part of our street art hunting game — and the culture. But if you(keep) turn(ing) on that filter, you might end up missing some really great walls.

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I understand that the mural might still be there and I had gone as I wanted to see it. I think I would have been more selective though if I had known the last seen date.

I ended up spending a couple of hours over a weekend trying to get to a couple of murals that are no longer there and feel that ended up being wasted time in London and Manchester on my first visit to see the murals.

If there was a way to highlight them, then I could make a decision on whether or not to see if they are still there or look out ones that I know have been seen recently.

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Maybe there is a half way house….

What if after a certain period of time without being seen, a piece is auto listed on the dashboard of the city, so that the hunters know to go and reconfirm it’s still there.

It’s a bit like how we handle it when someone marks a piece as removed. We go check it, confirm and then remove.

I have had the same experience as dav1dar, but usually find if the piece I was expecting isn’t there it’s because it’s been sprayed over with something new, so not always a wasted trip.

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I forgot to add… You know what is the really nice thing of missing an artwork (on SAC), usually on the way I find random artworks which are not document on the map:).

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One thing that may help is the option to mark a wall as ā€˜seen’ more than once? I have noticed that I have marked an artwork as ā€˜seen’ when I visited, remembered that I was there some time ago. I think the only way I found to remedy it was to go on my laptop, remove my previous ā€˜seen’ then mark it seen again (I remember doing this ages ago but not recently).

If there was a date next to the entry it would help I think.

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I must say, I do understand the added value of showing ā€˜hot seen’ and a ā€˜cold seen’ for hunters. @Dav1dar you mean, in the situation that an artwork has been seen once or twice, it could trigger a countdown that defines when a seen has run ā€˜cold’? Not with artworks that have never had a ā€˜seen’ before, right?

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All the art works only had the entry when they were added. None of them had been tagged as seen after that. They had all been added a few years ago.

In the early days, we didn’t have these social features, only this year we see them being used more often. Which is good. But I still see a lot of people (even hunters) going on Street art hunts, sharing their shots on socials but forgetting to hit that ā€˜seen’ button. So I guess we need to promote that feature even more (incorporating it in the new ā€˜beta’ leaderboard is a good start)

Personally I like the idea of adding a visual that says ā€˜last seen on date x’.

But like Stef said, hunting and making your miles is part of the game, although it can end in disappointment and frustration, which can easily be replaced with a random find.

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I like the idea of making the ā€˜last seen at’ date more visible. As a first step, I’ve just pushed a feature that will now show it in the ā€œMarker detailsā€œ section at the bottom of an artwork page, but we can probably do more to make it more visible in the future.

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Why not add a ā€œspray can blazing fire’ GIF if an artwork has been seen x times in a period of 6 months​:fire::fire::fire::fire::fire:

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If you’re going to do this, and it is to be useful you also need to remove the restriction where you can only click Seen for a particular marker once.

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Good point! We should probably allow marking an artwork as seen every X (3?) months.

I’ve created a ticket in our issue tracker to add that functionality.

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Three months seems too long to me, one month?

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What could make it even more intuitive is a simple color distinction for the map markers – for example:
:red_circle: red = not yet seen by me
:green_circle: green = already seen by me

That way, as a hunter, you’d always have a quick visual overview of which artworks you’ve already checked in your city and which ones are still on your list.

And if older artworks that haven’t been visited for a long time (e.g. 6+ months) were marked with a small flame icon :fire:, it would be a great reminder to recheck them — to see if they’re still there or maybe gone.

The first thing you mentioned is already possible using the map filters on the top right, where you can filter by ā€˜Seen by meā€˜ or ā€˜Not seen by meā€˜.

I personally almost always use the map in the ā€˜Not seen by meā€˜ mode, so that I only focus my attention on new pieces or ones I haven’t hunted myself:

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@thomas Oh wow, really? I didn’t know that! Thanks for the info — that’s brilliant. :raising_hands:

Update: I just noticed that this filter does exist in the mobile app — but I can’t find it in the desktop version, which I also use a lot.
Would it be possible to add this filter there as well?

Currently, the website doesn’t have the concept of user accounts, only the hunter dashboard does.

In the future we might add features like that, but it requires quite a big amount of work to add all of these user account-related features in both places.

But it does make sense of course to have this long-term, for sure!

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Okay, I understand. Then I’ll just have to be patient a little longer.